A simple fix for most of the use case complaints: add a 30 day grace period from date of purchase to first use of the sim card. This allows plenty of time for delivery. This card will expire 30 days after first use or 60 days from date of purchase, whichever comes first. Similar with the 90 day card. If the card arrives late, you have a claim with Amazon.
Thanks for this information great to know. We go up on the mountain several times a year, hunting and just fixing our blind. And camping. With no reception up there. I just like to play my games and music.
Not simple at all. This would require Republic to build an activation system which they haven’t built as part of this test. Everything is simple until you actually have to do it.
They already have one to activate the cards they provide for normal monthly use.
These are activated when card is inserted into the device and the app used.
Second, they have to have one already for these cards that reads data in(from shipping company webste??) to get the delivery date so that the card can be activated and the usage time clock started.
The existing Republic app doesn’t activate data only SIMs and only activates the device it’s running on. So, @louisdi is correct, Republic would indeed need to build an activation system.
We do not know what mechanism is being used for Republic’s authorized Amazon seller to communicate the date on which data only SIMs should activate. Therefore, it is impossible to know how easily that might be adapted.
Bottom line, in its current incarnation, Republic’s data only SIM is a test and Republic is transparent about that here: Republic Wireless Unlimited Data-Only SIM.
Simpler fix. Start the clock when the SIM pulls it’s 1st kilobyte of data.
This is simpler because you’re aware of the way activation of the SIM works? Aware of it there’s cost to having an active SIM pulling no data (as would be required here)? Aware the Republic has a system that would allow for this? Know how the relationship with the carrier partner works?
Lots of declarations of “simple” around here based on complete and utter lack of knowledge about anything at all that would be involved in making this “simple” thing happen.
From the description “Plan period begins upon delivery of SIM – no activation required.”, these SIMs are already pre-activated, ready to use. RW is just tracking the delivery date, not the raw activation date of the SIM.
Thinking this through a bit more, and using the experience of what I already do at my company with sales and working with sites seller backend like Amazon, Ebay, NewEgg…etc,
They could be doing this via the Amazon business seller back-end as the tracking number is stored there and Amazon itself has built in tracking notification system, as also does NewEgg and Ebay. It is easy to export a database, or spreadsheat of fulfilled orders or invoice. They could be using the data from that to read from when setting thier usage timeline for each card. Or, make it automated thing, so when Amazon sends a notification of delivery, this is then read by RW’s systems in some fashion and updates their back-end to log and start that sim cards time line.
Down an dirty way of setting this up…seller platform’s(Amazon, ebay etc) automated email notification of item delivered to customer is read by seller’s own email client or exchange server, triggers a rule or script that reads in certain fields, stores that data, then outputs that data to internal database system/program.service that then reads and makes use of that data to do required task, in this case, start the use time line clock for that data only SIM.
(I have been experimenting with something like this for my company to both digitize our Invoice and Order history, as well as to update our inventory system …it is currently all done on paper manually by hand and data manually entered. Getting different softwares and online services to talk to one another and work they way you want certainly is a challenge. I have a bit of programing and scripting knowledge, so that helps a bit.)
If RW already has a way to track that each SIM card is now active(delivered), and futhermore track the “Plan”, to start it, then deactivate the sim when time is up, or to reset the GB each month for the 90 days, this requiring the sim card’s number. Then, it sounds like to me that they already have some system in place to track and control each data only sim card rest data allotment and kill switch. SO, in theory, the trigger to make the “Plan” start may be possible to set to when the SIM first comes to life in the system/network.
EDIT: I also would like to add the point that some users, like my self, who live in apartment complex, whose packages get delivered to a rental office that is only open certain hours each week. It is sometimes a few days, or even a week or more before we can get packages from there due to our own work hours conflict with the open office hours. Not to mention the office is closed early randomly for staff meetings, showings etc. Very frustrating. Not at all the fault of Repulic, but certainly a concern when an item time clock starts at delivery. When i ordered a phone from RW for my mother, it was delivered to office, it sat there for 9 days before I could take the time off work to get it during business hours.
Or the 3rd party seller could be emailing a list of SIM numbers with expected delivery dates and someone at Rpeublic could be manually activating them. We can speculate until the end of time, but the bottom line is none of us know.
I don’t want you to waste your money on something that isn’t going to work. When you say there’s “no reception” there, do you mean no cell service? If so, this SIM card would not work either.
Sounds like a spectacular getaway, though!
Southpaw thanks for the update. And yes it is a wonderful get away.
What I cannot seem to figure out is what kind of devices might be compatible with this data SIM. I have an old VZW Samsung Galaxy Note 4 that is not compatible with RW’s cellular calling network, but I cannot tell if it would also be incompatible with the RW data network as well. It would come in handy at times to have this phablet connected to a cell data network outside of WiFi given its screen size. How can I check a device’s compatibility with the data SIM?
As Republic’s data only SIM is purely a cellular thing (no blended WiFi/cell service to be concerned about), it’s simply a matter of a device being GSM unlocked. Verizon operates a CDMA network and, generally doesn’t sell unlocked devices, so, candidly, it would be best to check with Verizon as to whether it’s an unlocked device and compatible with GSM networks.
If there is no RW account creation, or even activation, then who/how does the user contact for help or troubleshooting, as they can not Open a Ticket without an account? This Community Forum?,
Is RW gonna sell this product direct via their own online store, for those who won’t/ can’t use Amazon for whatever reason?
The packaging provides an email address for support with service specific issues. Issues with orders, shipping, fulfillment, etc are handled by the seller.
Not during this test phase. If and when this becomes more than a test or is reshaped in some way, there’s no saying.
Thanks for the reply. My understanding is that Verizon no longer locks its 4G LTE devices. I shall try to find specifications to see about GSM compatibility.
You are correct. A fellow Ambassador was kind enough to point this out to me after I had retired from the Community last evening: https://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy.
Some specs for the Verizon Note 4 are here: https://www.sammobile.com/devices/galaxy-note-4-verizon/specs/SM-N910V/. I don’t see any LTE compatibility. I do see 3G compatibility on Band 2 only. More here: Supported Radio Frequencies (Bands) for Republic's New Data Only SIM.
I found a site which gives this indication about the Note 4’s specs:
GSM Mhz band Quad Band 850/900
This site gives more specific details on mobile networks and data:
Thanks for your assistance.
I understand. According to these specs, the only frequency supported by your Verizon branded Note 4 that is compatible with Republic’s GSM network partner is Band 2 (1900 MNHz) and then at 3G maximum speeds (no 4G LTE).
So, the bottom line depending upon your location is it would likely work but the experience might not be as robust as you’d hope for. I’ll leave it to you to decide if the $30 investment to find out is worth it.